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  • An Interview with Eileen Myles

    An Interview with Eileen Myles

    Eileen Myles moves around a lot. We met for an hour because they had more places to be: a reading by some of their students and then their own reading in Ridgewood. I bungled my public transit route and was late to the interview. I received a text saying “What if we meet at 3:45. I will nap. See you then.” The ease through which they move around the city makes it clear that Myles is no recent transplant.

    Eileen Myles seems to be in a perpetual state of creation. Their photography show at Bridget Donahue gallery, a collection of curated photos from their Instagram, accompanied the release of their latest book of poetry, Evolution (Grove Press, 2018). They just screened The Trip, a short film they made with filmmaker David Fenster inspired by Jack Kerouac’s spoken score of Robert Frank’s 1958 Pull My Daisy, and Louis Malle’s 1981 My Dinner With Andre, which features Myles and their handmade puppets. The week of this interview they were named a MacDowell fellow, and are relocating out of their signature East Village apartment to a cabin in New Hampshire.

    But for now, we meet in the East Village at one of their usual spots, Café Mogador. They tell me they need coffee today, but don’t show it. They assure me that this is not an interview, this is just “a conversation.” The way a memoir is a novel, and an Instagram post is a poem.

    Sallie Fullerton: What I first wanted to touch on was your introduction to Evolution, the part where you talk about Shakers and this idea of a “generative scheme” in contrast to a reproduction-oriented society, this idea of keeping something alive outside of the conventional ways of doing so.

    Eileen Myles: I feel like I keep having encounters with this thing, and some of it does have to do with things that are related to reproduction, but in a particular way. I was doing my taxes recently. I have an accountant, and so I have this relationship with this guy, and so we always talk about the money part of things, and I was asking him “if I have this money, what should I do with this? Where should I put it?” He said, “ you make a trust. There are two kinds, revocable and irrevocable trust” and I said “so what’s the difference?” and he said well irrevocable is your blood line, it’s the money you want your family to get when you’re gone and revocable trust is money you put someplace but then you take it back.” and I was like “but I don’t have a bloodline.” And I became very excited about that. It just is that family is not important to me. I’ve been in lots of relationships and I have friends, ex-lovers, family members and all that but I am really confronting the fact that family is no kind of organizing principle in my life. And yet, there was this term, “bloodline” and I thought, ‘so what does that mean?” So now it’s become this silly idea. It’s generative.

    Like, I was doing a makeup class with my students and we were in this restaurant and I was attempting to pick up the check, and I was like ‘no, but you’re my bloodline!” I tried to explain to them what I was talking about but I think they were a little freaked out by it. Money has all this symbolic power in our culture and it’s a way of expressing futurity, and I suddenly thought that however I choose to invest that becomes an iteration of my bloodline in this completely other way. The most expensive thing in my life right now is therapy, I have a really good therapist, but it’s about getting this right, this existence, not so my kids won’t be fucked up or that I’ll have a good relationship. It’s actually so that I’ll know what I’m doing and where I am. 

    SF: So you’re talking about the productive versus the reproductive. I think it can be difficult to look outside of reproduction as a means of sustaining something.

    EM: Well I think part of being female, whether you’re queer or not, if you start with the female body, you realize that culturally you’re only of value as a duplicating machine. Some part of that seeps into you, whether you like it or not, because you’re immediately “other” in a way.

    SF: Right, and it often seems about what you can give.

    EM: Yeah! So suddenly it seems so awesome that my “bloodline” is circulating back into me and back into my students and my work and my dog. You know, the other part of my bloodline is my dog.

    SF: Yes, I was going to ask about the dog. 

    EM: It’s also the people that I move to where the dog is to care for her. The dog’s care is my bloodline. [laughs] Once you give any money to animals suddenly your mailbox starts to be full with donkeys, horses and cats. It’s started to be a ritual that I enjoy. It’s very old-fashioned; I’ll sit down with my checkbook and write checks to animals. Like this one, I feel like I made it up, it’s about legal aid for pets, lawyering them up! But all of it feels like expanding one’s vision and thinking beyond progeny.

    SF: Do you feel like dogs are your family or occupy a similar place in your life?

    EM: Well, one of the biggest things is that we don’t share a language. It’s awesome to have a relationship that isn’t based on language, especially for those of us for whom language is so important that you can kind of forget that you have other things going on. The relationship is so intuitive and sensitive, rich and mammalian.  Obviously every dog is different, just like every book is different and every relationship is different. It winds up being something that limits and expands in its own unique way.

    [A dog]  knows your smell. It’s intense. I think we probably have that relationship with our friends, we definitely have it with our lovers, and your family kind of accepts you on that level, but with animals it’s purely that. In a way, it’s the most intimate relationship.

    SF: I see your name on a lot of books. I work at a bookstore now, and there are Eileen Myles blurbs throughout. You blurb a lot of authors.

    EM: [laughs] Too many?

    SF: Not too many, no. But I know blurbs often happen through connections outside of the book.

    EM: Yeah, they’re usually about friendships. It almost always is. It’s usually a friendship with the press, or a friendship with the writer.

    SF: It’s a favor, maybe. 

    EM: Yeah, yeah, and people have helped me lots. I just did one for Rachel Monroe who wrote a book called Savage Appetite (Simon & Schuster, 2019), and it’s about women who are into murder. It’s interesting because what I got is that the whole industry of CSI and cop shows, women are watching it more than anybody. I thought ‘all this stuff about the dead girl, I wonder who the consumer is for that?’ And so that kind of changes it for me. I thought, ‘huh, so maybe it’s not such a bad thing.’ Even as just a way of managing  danger or what’s out there. I don’t know, I just thought if it wasn’t all just dudes reading it, maybe it means something.

    SF: I have also noticed a network of queer poets who write each other’s blurbs quite a bit.

    EM: Oh, yeah. And sometimes it really helps. I think that Andrea Lawlor’s book, Paul Takes The Form of a Mortal Girl (Vintage Books, 2017), is fantastic. And I think the combination of us who blurbed it is what pushed it over to the top.

    SF: I think it definitely did. It makes me so happy. It got picked up by Vintage [Books]  through you and people like Maggie Nelson’s blurbs.

    EM: Yeah, it makes it all worth it. And Andrea and Jordy [Rosenberg] and Maggie all go way back. All these people are related.

    SF: I’m reminded in what you’re saying about the concept of “chosen families” which I think can become difficult to differentiate from “networking” – now, especially in New York.

    EM: Well, that sort of excludes some people and pulls in other people. I know communities are temporary but it [the term “chosen family”] still has this gated humanity feel. It can exclude the accidental and the temporary. I don’t want to say New York is my “chosen family,” but New York is the supplier of something we’re talking about in a way. Sometimes I feel like I’m purposely spending time here to get a lot of it so that I can go be alone.

    SF: Like Vitamin D.

    EM: Yeah, like right now it’s Gala season. Every institution that needs money is having a big party and then I’m a “somebody” now so I’ve gotta be at the party and we’re all hugging and it’s like a like a big grope, like an orgy of friendship.

    SF: And did it always feel this way in New York?

    EM: No! Everything felt that way earlier but now it’s something that is more staged. Even the phenomena of meeting someone for coffee seemed to start about ten or twenty years into my life in New York. It used to be that you’d just go and everybody was there.

    SF: When I read about people writing about your work it’s usually about how intensely personal it is, even though you technically write novels and not memoirs. It seems as though people, regardless of how well they know you, have a sense that they really know you, feel like they are almost in your world. I’m wondering how this affects the way that you relate to your own work.

    EM: Well I think of the majority of my work as being relatively quiet. Nobody talks about how the pieces get fit together, which is the thing I’m really interested in. I’m interested in time travel. It’s sort of like how the present attaches to other associative times, how you can make something that is like a simulacra of time travel. I was going to say memory, but it isn’t exactly that. It’s more associative. It’s like writing a poem in prose. But there’s not much conversation about that because now I’m doing this other thing. 

    I just think that a poem is so many different things. Once you get a large form going and you know that it’s a place or a state, it starts to become interesting to see what it can hold that strays from the normal definition of what a poem is. You can simply put down a wish. It’s sort of like to what extent is this an epitaph? Are you writing in the same time-code in the whole book or are some pieces very slow.  The space of the page is just so interesting. It’s just pieces of paper.

    SF: You’ve been read and talked about so many times and it’s almost like a game of telephone. I’m imagining how this process makes it so you get further and further away from what you’re actually trying to do and more about how others are perceiving or “reading” you.

    EM: Well it’s like a copy of a copy of a copy. Often when somebody says something, that becomes the thing people say, they repeat it.

    SF: “Badass lesbian poet?”

    EM: [laughs] Yes, exactly. Thank you! That’s my least favorite.

  • Broken Compass

    Broken Compass

    1.

    I prefer to think

    I first felt the muse flutter

    those immortal nights

    when I was young

    and even suffering seemed new.

     

    But life is again becoming dull,

    where again I find this empty shell

    echoes

    2.

    The second time

    I put my foot down,

    you landed on my toes,

    sliding with a push

    softly on the floor.

    Then I took off your golden case and had you naked,

    slender in my hands.

     

    Tomorrow I will get you replaced.

    3.

    Blessed to sit on this chair and notice my fingers,

    Lucky to see my nails gather in dirt the time,

    Privileged to be able to finish every night without pretensions about luck or divine light,

    only principles I know to defend and intimations that make life worth living.

    4.

    I am always in love,

    and maybe it’s with me,

    with the shadow of pure light

    I find in between

    the kisses.

    5.

    like a bird

    whose doesn’t know about time,

    but still feels the pull

    of earth’s magnetic heart,

    I walk slowly in the sun, naked to the grass,

    a child of ancient myth who let his gods

    slowly die

    in the blue dominions

    of the half-dreamt

    open sky.

    6.

    I’m looking for you amongst the immense, illiterate, consoling angels,

    the collapse of foam and liquid sand

    I’m trying to resurrect the conjunction of the mind and opposition of the stars,

    that taste of transcendence in the night air

    here with the budding

    ablaze, intoxicated with the rushing, ambrosial tastes,

    all the syncopated tremors

    echoing in the unbearable

    yellow hue.

    7.

    All I know is that the now is

    the ashtray with a painting of Japanese fishes, a book, my phone

    intensity and apathy, enlightenment and confusion.

    8.

    Looking at my hand: is this a hand?

    Like the veins of magnolias under the sun and the vastness of the ocean

    in the sound of a shell.

     

    I recognize my voice now.

    9.

    a
    vortex roar / black / shavings of mist / tense, jubilant, almost erotic
    violence / the ligaments under my skin / the train suddenly halting and
    reality thickening / the collective dream briefly shattered / here in
    this desperately empty space with the anemic feel

    10.

    through the ennui of night.

    I want to remember

    not the photographic stillness of your beautiful smile,

    but the accidental grace,

    the fading gold of your hair.

    11.

    without ever walking in the wild and wondering why

    the overcast afternoon sky is the color of a wolf’s howl,

    I would muse naively

    as if something in my head

    weren’t black eyes with a million sparkling irises of white.

    12.

    wasn’t that it’s destiny,

    to tread the earth?

    Now I’m stranded in the space between sense and word

    Dark, with penetrating eyes:

    A very expressive face and a very expressive voice,

    My native language,

    ineffable tones,

    My only word.

     

    But I know where I come from:

    the continent stretching from pole to pole—

    Of oneself I sing.

    13.

    If these fragments are to be found,

    let them be found

    with a picture of a mountain behind them,

    Something ethereal, something blue.

    14.

    I’m
    doing this for beauty… the sheer joy of the wind blowing on my face
    when it’s hot, how it becomes the breadth of my existence as I briefly
    become aware of my body amidst all the movements of the day… how I
    cease to move automatically (like an animal) and pause, making my back
    straight to grasp being in the inner flexing of my thighs, the balance
    of gravity on my shoulders, presence in the soul of my feet… monstrous
    abstractions with wrinkles… wrinkles from laughing, creasing with
    taunting, almost sarcastic pleasure… brotherhood, sisterhood, the
    shadows of divinity we impart to dogs and the sweet reminder of all
    things pure in the smell of bread flooding the city square at seven in
    the morning when the world is awake but still not fully conscious, still
    hungover with yesterday’s collapse in furious crystal dreams …
    mornings of blooming June with the taste of acidically sweet
    raspberries…

    15.

    Listening for silence

    on the underside of a leaf, cool in shadow,

    I’m thinking of an invisible image:

    how an angel forms every time

    I quiver with light.

  • Five Poems – Lynne Sachs

    When filmmaker Lynne Sachs turned fifty, she dedicated herself to writing a poem for every year of her life, so far. Each of the fifty poems investigates the relationship between a singular event in Sachs’ life and the swirl of events beyond her domestic universe. Published by Tender Buttons Press, Year by Year Poems juxtaposes Sachs’ finished poems, which move from her birth in 1961 to her half-century marker in 2011, with her original handwritten first drafts. In this way, she reveals her process of navigating within and alongside historical events such as the Moon Landing, the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., streaking, the Anita Hill hearings, the Columbine shootings, and controversies around universal health care. In Year by Year Poems, Lynne Sachs realizes the long anticipated leap from her extraordinary career in filmmaking to this, her first book of poems.

    Here are five of the fifty poems:

     

    1969

    Our telephone rings.
    Neil Armstrong on the line. 
    He knows I stole the Earth’s only moon. 
    “Give it back,” he says.
    I watch him step across the lunar landscape. 
    I thought we could be friends.
    He turns to look at all of us
    (from the moon) 

    I am the only one who sees his sadness.

     

    1974

    I see him running naked
    on the university green
    streaking
    and then again, the same guy in a shopping mall parking lot
    his floppy folds
    the soft calluses on the bottoms of his feet.

    At night
    our slumber party
    becomes a midnight snack of truth or dare treats.
    We seven copycat girls throw off nightgowns
    and run into a suburban field of telephone poles and feral cats
    praying someone
    anyone
    will see us.

     

    1982 (for Ira, my brother)

    The gypsy women of Paris go by in groups of five
    while I am in worn jeans, a pair of pumps, and a paisley blouse.
    Each rain floods the sidewalk with a stream of green and brown,
    like a studio of an Impressionist painter,
    curious brush strokes,
    relics of the Jardin des Plantes.
    I’m a tired college student
    napping in an empty Sorbonne classroom
    late-to-class bus rides
    crumbs from my morning baguette ground between threads.  

    My evening phone booth call catches my brother
    as he prepares for school at home, 4359 miles away.
    His hello transforms this dirty glass box
    into four dynamic movie screens.
    I see him clearly
    at home with Mom 
    eating a bowl of cereal and drinking a small glass of juice.
    I see a new diamond stud in his left ear,
    Mom at the sink, a confused look on her face,
    wondering how to read the placement of his glistening gem.
    What we share and still continue to hide. 

    Raindrops slide down the fourth window pane,
    framing him with a man I can’t quite see.
    In a dark parking lot behind a downtown Memphis bar,
    a secret cameo of infatuation.
    I wipe away the condensation
    to get a better view
    as the screen goes dark on Boulevard Raspail.

     

    1999   

    In our front yard now, Columbine grows wild.               
    With each bloom, I think of her, a mother too. 

    She feeds her son, knows the fruit that makes his lips pucker, the sheet that pricks his stubbly cheek, the grade he received on his biology test, how often he hiccups drinking a Coke, which ride scares him at the amusement park, how he conjures an obscure spelling word, how long he takes to shit, the moment in a day when he is most likely to be kind. 

    I doubt he ever told her about the night his skin touched skin, or the day he skipped school, or how many guns he hid behind the broken sewing machine table that she refuses to throw away because one day she hopes to have the time to sew again.   

     

    2010                                                               

    In the eventuality that preparation for security advanced
    signatures obtained life jackets confirmed permanent medical
    records sealed pharmaceuticals delivered weather reported
    batteries checked tires filled expiration avoided warnings
    acknowledged wills signed if-and-only-ifs collected and still
    no one anticipated the return of my brother-in-law’s cancer.                                                                         

    A friend forgot to send her payment — a single check
    she never put in the envelope, hidden under
    a stack of receipts, appointment cards, and electricity bills.
    The check, never arrived.  Her policy, cancelled.                   

    She who had already given up her ovaries and come
    face-to-face in the ring with illness, won that round.            
    Now no rope to hold onto, no pillows to fall back on.           

    We two friends of more than twenty years sit at a table
    in a café talking of our homes, books we’ve read,    
    people almost forgotten, purses with zippers, jump
    ropes, kitchen counters, projects abandoned. 

    I ask her about her health. She’s crossing her fingers.
    That’s all she has until they pass that bill.

  • An Interview with Karina Longworth

    In November 2018, Karina Longworth released Seduction: Sex, Lies, and Stardom in Howard Hughes’ Hollywood, a biography of both the businessman himself and 10 of the Hollywood women who entered and eventually left his life. The Hughes decades of Hollywood are a vessel for Longworth’s snapshots of movie stars as well-remembered as Katharine Hepburn and as lost-to-history as Billie Dove. The bulk of the book covers Hughes’ bursting onto the movie scene in the ‘20s to his gradual retreat into seclusion in the ‘50s.

    The facts of Hughes’ Hollywood career remain stunning, 40-plus years after his death. Seduction investigates the Hughes publicity machine, one that exerted significant control over the press and was successful in positioning Hughes as America’s favorite rich aviator. Unknown to the public was Hughes’ incredible security network, the armada of drivers, associates, and spies he collected in large part to surveil the actresses he was constantly signing to contracts. Seduction tries to get to know a man who was known as both a wildly charismatic figure and an uncomfortable, unknowable personality.  

    Just weeks ago, Longworth announced that her podcast, You Must Remember This, will go on hiatus due to the expiration of her current contract to make the show. Since 2014, Longworth has taken on stories big and small, and dedicated seasons to matters as disparate as the Blacklist and echoes of the Manson murders in ‘60s Hollywood . More than 140 episodes in, You Must Remember This has taken on some of the 20th Century’s most enduring and misunderstood cultural legacies.

    The podcast’s form follows the abundant research Longworth pours into each season, as evidenced by the bibliographies she puts together for each episode. Synthesizing the conflicting accounts originally told by people who have long-since passed is a large part of a cultural historian’s work; with YMRT’s latest and perhaps final season, “Fake News: Fact-Checking Hollywood Babylon,” Longworth made that work the series’ subject, as she attempted to separate truth from fiction in the famous Kenneth Anger gossip collection.

    Each YMRT season has acted as a canvas for the smaller stories Longworth is so skilled at telling. In Charles Manson’s Hollywood, Dennis Wilson, Terry Melcher, Kenneth Anger, and Roman Polanski each get their own one-episode biography. The Dead Blondes series uses this style more explicitly, dedicating an episode to the life and times of 11 actresses. With Seduction, she has translated that style from audio to print, producing expansive, decades-long stories without sacrificing or overindulging in the details of the lives that helped sculpt Hollywood’s “Golden Age.”

    When I first encountered Longworth’s You Must Remember This, I was thrilled by the Hollywood story she unearthed on the peripheries of the Manson murders: the industry figures who were drawn in and the legacy Manson’s hoodwinking left in ‘70s moviemaking. The efforts to separate the cultural legacy of a Hollywood touchstone from the day-to-day reality of the people involved is why I’m a fan of the show and now Seduction.

    I spoke with Longworth over the phone, sitting at the same crowded desk where I had read Seduction, reconsidering the Golden Age as we know it.

    Jake Greenberg: Was there a star you found most unknowable in the book?

    Karina Longworth: I mean, Howard Hughes (laughs). But aside from him, Jean Peters [Hughes’ last wife] was never very forthcoming, certainly not in talking about her relationship with Hughes. Every interview with her that I came across read like it was written by a publicist, so trying to figure out who she actually was was pretty difficult. The closest thing I feel like I have to something that I didn’t have reason to doubt the veracity of were the depositions she gave during the long battle to figure out who was Howard Hughes’ legitimate heir and, probably more significantly, which state he would be taxed in. She seems to be speaking the most candidly there. But at the same time she’s looking back on this period that was many years before. She has the benefit of hindsight, but is also still holding grudges. So it was fascinating trying to figure out what she was actually thinking and feeling during the time period that most of the book is about.

    JG: Was there a star, and maybe it was Jean Peters, whose work you were most surprised by when you revisited it?

    KL: Well it wasn’t really a question of revisiting Jean Peters’ work because, besides for Pickup on South Street, I don’t think I’d ever seen a movie she’d been in. Same with Terry Moore — she was someone who was completely new to me. I don’t know that anyone else was that surprising, but I did have occasion to see a lot of films that I’d never seen before — Billie Dove was another person whose work I didn’t know until I wrote the book. And I watched certain Katharine Hepburn films that I don’t think are appreciated as classics, that maybe should be. I think that Christopher Strong is a lot better than its reputation led me to believe. I think Morning Glory is really, really good. It has this reputation of having a good performance but not being a good movie. But I actually do think it’s a very good movie.

    JG: One thing I noticed in the book is you kept interrupting these scenes where you’d be talking about Katharine Hepburn, for example, to flash to Jane Russell as a young girl watching Hepburn in a movie theater. You used the same device to show Marilyn Monroe watching Jean Harlow.

    KL: I always think about Hollywood as a continuum, and I think it was especially vivid in the 20th Century. I don’t really know how people who are entering the film industry look at film history now, but I know for me, being born in 1980, growing up watching movies you really felt this sense of there being echoes of things happening in the present day in the past, and so I’m always trying to understand events as being part of a continuum.

    JG: What was the relationship you were most interested in at the beginning, when you first started thinking about this as a book?

    KL: There wasn’t an individual relationship I was most interested in. I was interested in the scope, and of Hughes’ time in Hollywood basically being the exact same years as we consider to be this classical Hollywood era. Just how fascinating that was, and how he was so prolific as a man involved with women, or rumored to be involved with so many women, at the very least. So you could actually make this portrait of what it was like to be a woman in Hollywood, and what it was like to be written about and thought about as a woman in Hollywood, during the most important time in Hollywood’s history.

    JG: Are there movies you’re particularly excited that people might discover in reading Seduction?

    KL: Yeah, I think for a lot of readers most of these movies will be new. One thing that’s been cool is in promoting the book, I’ve done a number of events where we’ve done a screening of a movie, and two different venues, one in Toronto and one in Austin, requested to show Wait ‘Till The Sun Shines, Nellie, which is a movie I had never heard of before I started writing this book. I think it’s completely off the radar of even a lot of cinephiles, even people who are fans of the director Henry King. It is available on DVD, it’s just kind of a bad color transfer. So those events were really incredible because Fox has this pristine technicolor print of the film that nobody ever rents. It was just so great to be able to share that with audiences, so that would be the number one. But, of the dozens of movies I talked about in the book, I think there are only a couple that are widely revived or seen today.

    JG: There’s a passage from Seduction I keep coming back to: “By the end of Hughes’s life, when he was a codeine addict who spent his days and nights nodding in front of the TV, the former star aviator playboy would suddenly perk up when an actress he had once spent time with appeared on the screen. Hughes would allegedly call over one of his many aides, point, and say, ‘Remember her?’” There’s something extremely haunting about it.

    KL: I think he was most successful as a spectator. He did try to be a collector, but ultimately in the end, he lost all of these women. He didn’t have what it took to hold onto them in any meaningful way. And over the course of time, he didn’t really even want to be in the room with anybody.

    JG: How aware were you of the vastness and extent of his security operation before researching all this?

    KL: Oh I don’t think I knew anything about it, other than what you see in [Scorsese’s] The Aviator of Hughes buying up photographs and stuff like that.

    JG: It’s stunning to read about him hiring dozens and dozens of people to do this work, and people presumably not knowing that much about it at the time.

    KL: Yeah, I think that there were rumors, but from what I could tell, the women who became involved with him either didn’t believe the rumors, or they just thought, “Oh, well, of course, he’s a rich and powerful man. He needs to protect his interests.” And they didn’t think having all these bodyguards and drivers around could be used against them, which is really interesting.

    JG: By the end of your research, did you feel like you had a better understanding of what made him so charismatic?

    KL: Until his plane crash in 1946, he was super handsome. And I think that there was something in the culture through this whole time, and really until he kind of disappeared from public view, where women were supposed to try to find men like this. In Hollywood and throughout America there was this idea that if you were a young woman, your American Dream was supposed to be to find a rich husband. And he specifically was held up in the media as the most eligible bachelor in America. Terry Moore talks about this: she’s a teenager, alone in a room with this guy and she thinks he’s a creepy old man, but, you know, you weren’t supposed to say no to Howard Hughes. If he wanted to hang out with you, you were supposed to let him.

    JG: Transitioning to the You Must Remember This side of things, a uniting style of Seduction and You Must Remember This is the mini-biography. When you first started making the podcast, were you thinking that you wanted to tell larger stories through a series of biographies, or did that form just take hold because of the stories you wanted to tell?

    KL: I don’t think that’s ever been a conscious goal. When I started the podcast, I just was interested in this idea that cultural memory is very short, and that Hollywood history is full of things that people either think that they know – like they think that they know who Marlon Brando was, or Marilyn Monroe, or Judy Garland – but they don’t actually know the fullness of the whole life, or they don’t remember specific incidents accurately. And I was interested in whole careers that have just been lost to the cultural memory. Some of my favorite episodes are about people like Kay Francis, and about zero people remember who Kay Francis was. So the podcast was just about trying to bring to life some of these stories that have either been misrepresented or forgotten.

    JG: When did Hollywood Babylon the book come into your life?

    KL: I think I was about 20. I was in art school in San Francisco, and I don’t remember how I heard about it. But I remember buying a copy on Amazon, which is funny because now if I need to look up something about Hollywood Babylon and go to the Amazon page, it says, you bought this book on, like, April 5, 2000.

    JG: You touched on this earlier, but do you think of the accessibility of film history as a goal of the podcast?

    KL: Yeah, I definitely hope that people will watch some of these movies. I think that some people found the podcast because of different true crime stories I’ve told, so that kind of exposes people who may not think they’re interested in Old Hollywood to these Old Hollywood stories. But it doesn’t really matter to me if they don’t subscribe to FilmStruck, R.I.P., or start watching TCM, or start buying some of these really good biographies.

    JG: The Manson season [“Charles Manson’s Hollywood”] was my way into the show, and I just kept going from there. I knew the basics of the Manson story, but the Hollywood angle I certainly wasn’t familiar with.

    KL: Yeah. I kind of only did that season because I had stumbled across the fact that, initially, the police and the newspapers were spreading the notion that the Family had gone to Cielo Drive that night looking for Doris Day’s son. So I was just kind of fascinated with this idea that Doris Day and Charles Manson were part of the same story.

    JG: What feels to you like the biggest story you’ve told on You Must Remember This, or the most expansive?

    KL: I don’t know. The Hollywood Babylon season was really difficult, because it meant starting from scratch every week, which is the hardest way to do this kind of storytelling. It’s much easier to do something like “Jean and Jane,” [In 2017, Longworth released a You Must Remember This season about the contrasting careers and activisms of Jean Seberg and Jane Fonda.] where the scope is limited to just these two actresses, and just the period of time when they were active. With the Hollywood Babylon season, it was 19 episodes that ranged from the teens to the late sixties.

    JG: My next question was actually about “Jean and Jane.” I think it’s become my favorite season. Did it change the way you think of celebrity activism?

    KL: I don’t know that it changed anything for me. It was just more interesting to think about these two specific examples. You could say that Jane Fonda has recovered from the bad publicity she received; it doesn’t seem like it’s really holding her back any longer, though it is in the air, and maybe it’s in the air more than it had been 10 years ago because we have the alt-right now, who still hate her. Whereas, everything that happened with Jean Seberg is just not part of the public conversation anymore. And if she is part of any public conversation, I think it’s usually because of Breathless. So it was really interesting to see these two people doing similar kinds of things, and Jane Fonda is able to survive it – not untarnished, but survive it – and Jean Seberg really isn’t. It really destroys her.

    JG: What was interesting to me was the scope of both of their activism. I think that that’s very rare for celebrities, for at multiple points for both of them to abandon a lot of what they were doing in Hollywood to support the Black Panthers or go to North Vietnam.

    KL: Right. It’s interesting because Jane Fonda has this sort of career resurrection after she does a lot of this stuff. Whereas with Jean Seberg — I think what we don’t think about often with that period of Hollywood is that the things that liberal/leftist activists were supposedly fighting for were so against the grain of what Hollywood was doing as a business. So Jane Fonda was able to stand up for things she believed in, and to some extent to renounce the commercialism and consumerism of Hollywood, but she ultimately went pretty hard back into capitalism, kind of as hard as you could go. And with Jean Seberg, it was really a pure thing, of putting the activism first and not caring about how it would affect her financially or how it would affect her capital as a star. And ultimately, you can’t say that she made decisions that were good for her, even if she was following what she believed in.

    JG: On a personal taste level, who are the movie stars you find yourself returning to the most?

    KL: I think it varies. With the work that I do, I have to become newly obsessively-interested in whoever I’m researching this week or this month.

  • Capstone

    Capstone

    among the blue desks was a meager
    audition for adulthood crumpled
     
    into a mess of wooden shadows reciting
    barbell lines on the film school second
     
    floor (stair steps closer to Orion) how
    I was dreaming young of the world’s
     
    grand magnanimousness suffused
    with balloons that smelled of palm frond
     
    everglades my school-sanctioned camera
    would record the nightglow trees by lights  
     
    of Coe Lake where it snowed pine cones
    in the backyard of my mother’s house
     
    where acres stretch forever rugs of green grass
    and hunger the endless hunger for somewhere
     
    anywhere else
  • Five Poems – Ace Boggess

    Love Is the Journey

    Days I’ve driven around the city
    because I came too early to pick you up from work.
    Sitting in an idling car, running in place,
    waiting, didn’t seem an option.
    I needed movement, action
    on a small scale. I circled blocks,
    listening to music, smoking out the open window, 

    observing joggers, dog-walkers, drug dealers
    leaning against parked cars to offer the sly handshake
    or the sudden drop. How often
    was I nearly blindsided by a bus?
    How many times did I pass the same house—
    cracked brick, one boarded window—&
    wonder were there ghosts inside? 

    Here is my love poem for you:
    not the words I’ve written but the pause
    between departure & arrival.
    It’s then I’ve felt centered, certain.
    Farther out I spiraled, the closer I came to you,
    counting minutes, singing along
    to a happy song about someone’s desperation.

     

    Unseasonable Warmth

    Japonicas bloom as the temperature drops,
    lipstick buds stretching toes into frigid water. 

    Year after year, they do this too early,
    race to flame at the first pre- 

    spring blush before a chill returns.
    Soon, they will lean forward in ice, 

    their rosy faces peeking out
    from a crystalline lattice of snow. 

    We fear the worst as if for trapped koi
    frozen in a pond. Yet they go on. 

    Photos will be taken, snapshots
    of contrast: rebirth, miscalculation. 

    The hedge will blaze in embers
    already wasting to ash—my god, the absence.

     

    Burning the Worm

    Snuffing my cigarette. Didn’t see it
    there in dark, in the rain-gray mirror.
    Two halves arced in sync
    like glow-stick dancers at a rave,
    like a nighttime Landing Signal Officer
    waving fighter jets around the deck.
    Water put both pieces out,
    each vanishing into an abyss.
    I felt sick about it, despite that I’d done
    much worse to worms, serving them
    on a hook for sport to frenzied sunfish
    in a river niche. I thought
    I should be charged with Reckless
    Endangerment by the arthropod police,
    thrown in a dirt cell, dank & chthonic.
    Lord, it was an accident,
    but does that make me innocent?
    How might one rescue the invisible?
    It’s like the old riddle about
    what I would save from a house on fire.
    I know the correct response & know my heart.

     

    Goodbye, Julie Adams

    Didn’t know you were still alive, & now you’re gone.
    92—good age to die, as good as any. 

    After so many years, how did you see your history,
    your figure that inspired love from monsters, 

    one Creature? He swam beneath you
    in murky undercurrents of desire, 

    a timid stranger drinking at the sludge bar,
    followed you into the next film hoping you’d save him, 

    except you weren’t there. I don’t recall
    much of my childhood beyond late-night movies, 

    Chiller Theatre with Bela, Boris, Lon, & you,
    bathing suit bright like a fire shot in black & white. 

    You went by Julia then, a role
    you played within the role you played. 

    Did you watch yourself on screen?
    Did you own every format—Betamax, VHS, laser disc, 

    DVD, digital? Did you mourn the Gill Man
    as he would mourn you now, 

    grieving, raging, & destroying? Or was that
    a moment like a brief embarrassment in college, 

    something that happened to you once
    that you no longer found significant? 

    As you please. The myth of you illuminates my screen
    when I watch again, am watching, 

    voyeur of melancholy, creature as well,
    observing you since youth & loving still.

     

    What I Remember

    Security guard more than private wing or the one
    priceless painting it sheltered. Manet,
    I think. Or was it Monet? Don’t recall the face,
    flower, female form. There was blue, 

    maybe—a lot of it. Cerulean. Could be.
    We walked in & out, past the hired muscle
    who looked like John Belushi in a herringbone suit.
    He was art, standing out as intended; 

    art that says something about human nature,
    even if we fail to comprehend or pay attention.
    In J-school photojournalism, my professor said,
    If a picture doesn’t have a person in it, 

    then it isn’t news. I remember that &
    the guy in the suit: bas-relief against a sterile wall,
    his earpiece coiled around the horns,
    hands cupped as if a stone St. Francis shone in prayer.

  • And I’ll Call You a Liar

    I’ll look like a cunt if I take off now. So I have to stick it out. Keep my word. Hold this fat bastard’s pungent wheelchair underneath him while he stands on shaky legs. Grasping the escalator handrail so tight his knuckles whiten. Until we get to the top. 

    Or his knees give out and we both come to our end. 

    From over his shoulder he barks at me. You got that fucking thing ready ‘case I fall? I hear the worry in his gravel voice. But there’s something else. I recognize it. I’ve heard it before. But I can’t figure out where.

    Because I lose my thoughts in a good-looking woman coming down as we go up. Her sweet face turns pure hate as she sees the dirty old lowlife I’m aiding. She leans towards him as they cross. Finger pointed in full rage. Vas te faire foutre! Conard!

    I like her style. 

    A friend of yours? I ask as the escalator carries us away. But he chooses to ignore me. Everyday trifles or bigger worries I don’t care. Because the end of the ride is approaching fast. He snaps at me again asking if I’m ready. Unsure of who he chose to help. 

    I shout false confidence.

    A cold sweat runs down my brow. 

    Fear of death in overdrive. 

    His back falls forward in slow motion. There’s still time to drop the chair. Sidestep the slob as he goes careening by. Disappear into the clamor. But I was raised better. So instead of giving up and facing murder charges I brace my arms and legs. Then whisper 1 more pep talk before I probably die. 

    You can do this you fucking pussy.

    He hits the seat. Him the chair and I we all groan under the strain. But I manage to hold my ground. Every muscle in my body tight. My lower back about to burst. The last of what I think I have. A final shove up over the lip. The chair jumps. He starts yelling. 

    Take it easy man! What are you fucking stupid?

    Aha! That’s it. Where I’ve heard his voice. Seen his greasy hair. Out front the corner store. The door to the metro. Harassing everyone. Especially the fine looking women. And I’m certain he fits the description of a man who called my wife a whore when she declined his offer to fuck her in the ass. 

    So without saying a word I start pushing. Faster and faster and faster. I veer our course towards the gate beside the turnstiles. A hip-level plexiglass door. The old creep is on to me and drops his feet like brakes because he can see his future coming. But we don’t even slow down. He yelps 1 final call for mercy. 

    Nothing can stop us now.

    His knees hit with a bang. He groans like a dying beast. The gate opens like a gunshot. The latch breaking off and hitting the ground is the greatest joke I’ve ever heard. I’m laughing like a madman. Name a better time than revenge and I’ll call you a liar.

    I give him another push with everything I’ve got. Let go. He rolls away at top speed yelling words I’ve been called 1000’s of times so they don’t hurt. People all around stare in shock. Never guessing I made a promise to the woman I love and all they witnessed was me keeping it. 

  • Choosing Water

    Choosing Water 

    The first time I went in a boat, I was about four years old. It was in Maine. I was in a tiny sunfish and I was terrified, afraid of falling out and drowning, but my aunt held my hand as the boat bobbed near the shore. With her touch I knew everything would be alright. At that time, the water was a source of fear, because even then I understood its tremendous power to take life. At home, there was a brook where I pretended to fish and watched the rushing water drag fallen leaves through its current, twisting them up in its own churn.

    Years later, I attended college along the Connecticut River. We were required to take physical education classes, so I threw caution to the wind and enrolled in whitewater kayaking. I marvel at how unafraid I was of the rushing river and the rocks I could be dashed against, the sharp surfaces that could break my bones. I was keen to absorb the instructor’s directions about how to right the single-person kayak if it capsized, but instead of being scared that I’d be trapped under the boat, I was exhilarated that I could maneuver inside of it, shape its direction, change its path. The water was alive and so was I and together we could move objects. 

    Soon after, during my junior year abroad in Glasgow, Scotland, I eschewed an umbrella, leaning into the rain that fell every day, sometimes for an hour, sometimes for fifteen minutes, absorbing it like a refreshment even. Again, I felt the reminder of being alive as the drops of rain caught in my hair and fell into my eyes. The rain changed something, even if slightly, about how I moved through the streets, making things different than they would be if it never existed.  

    More than a decade later in NYC, I developed a habit of swimming laps at the local YMCA. In the water, like nowhere else, my mind could be soothed but invigorated: all the detritus clearing out, leaving nothing but taut, logical thoughts like the numbers I counted to myself as I went up and down the lanes, methodically, rhythmically, weightlessly. In the pool, it seemed I could swim forever without tiring. During the pandemic, the pool closed temporarily and I lost access to the liberating sensation of doing laps, the repetitive invitation of the movement. 

    Movement, and the freedom it offers, has always been important to me. As a toddler, I would spend time in a playpen. When my mother discovered I didn’t like to stay inside it, always asking to be taken out of it, she came up with an innovative solution: she cut a hole in it so I would know that I had the freedom to leave whenever I wanted. With this adaptation, she says, I was content to stay inside the playpen for hours. 

    When I stayed in the psychiatric hospital in my thirties, movement was tightly restricted. The unit was locked and, for the majority of our stay, we weren’t allowed to leave its confines. Visitors came to us at specified hours through the locked doors. Getting too close to the doors was a violation that would result in confiscation of your street clothes, which would be replaced with flimsy hospital apparel. One evening, I took all my roommate’s velvety dresses from the hangers where they were carefully arranged and piled them on the floor next to the window, in what I thought was preparation for tying them together to climb down the side of the building and escape. My efforts were interrupted – with no one to open the window to offer me the knowledge I could leave should I wish to, which, according to the logic of my early childhood, might itself have been enough to convince me to remain inside where I belonged. 

    Close to the end of my three months’ stay, we were allowed to take short, supervised walks outside. But on our journeys beyond locked doors, there were no bodies of water to promenade alongside and no rain fell overhead. Cold, immobile concrete surrounded us as we squinted in the sun, unaccustomed to its brightness. Inside the unit in art therapy, I painted a beach bucket, full of hermit crabs, set before a background of sand and waves. 

    Making choices has always been difficult for me, but like water, they are vehicles of power.  My neighborhood in New York City is along the East River and, in 2020, I could visit the nearby riverside park. A fence separated me from the water itself, the life-giving source. Still, during those lonely pandemic days before the vaccine, visiting the waterfront helped give me a kind of peace I could not find elsewhere. Every choice that I made seemed full of the possibility of life or death. I could get sneezed on at the laundromat, so I started using drop-off service. Someone could cough on me at the deli or grocery store, so I began ordering my groceries online. Meeting men in person could result in a painful death, so I held phone and Zoom dates. 

    The pandemic took away my chance to go to the ocean in 2020, so when I returned there in 2021, I was ecstatic to bop up and down in the waves, letting my long hair drag through the water. At my favorite beach, I reminisced about my girlhood, spending hours in the tide pools, watching the paths in the sand that showed where snails had crawled.

    Most of our bodies are made of water and perhaps that is why I feel so at home in it. Every summer since I was ten – thirty years now excluding the year the pandemic stole – I have visited my godmother in Maine and spent time at the ocean. It could be that this consistency is also what makes water feel like home, like a natural place to return to again and again.

    Water is an instrumental part of the story of Jesus, from his baptism in the Jordan River to his turning water into wine to his preaching on the shores of the sea. And for me, water is the grandeur of God, the vast wonder of the universe, the amazing properties of a substance that is life-giving, the molecules that hold my body up.

    But water can also take life – and that is perhaps what instills respect and fear. My father, nearly 75, almost drowned as a young man and for this reason he won’t jump off the diving board of the pool in his backyard, not even wearing a life vest. Every summer he says this is the year he will and every summer the life vest remains hanging in the pool room, unused. 

    While my mother may have given me the opportunity to make a decision when she cut the playpen during my toddler days, sometimes my parents have feared the choices I’ve made. During a study abroad program in Argentina, I planned to go to Patagonia with two friends over spring break. My parents were concerned about the safety of the planes we’d be flying in – imagining them crashing –  and warned me that they did not approve of my decision. I remember being on the other side of the equator from them and hearing the anxiety in their voices, as they tried unsuccessfully to dissuade me from the adventure. 

    On that trip, we experienced amazing horse rides with legitimate gauchos and clear natural lakes on the Camino de Siete Lagos or Path of Seven Lakes. The water was bluer than anything I’d ever seen. It was as if my parents’ worries had sunk to the bottoms of the pristine lakes, forgotten, unheeded. What replaced them were vistas of clarity and beauty that I remember decades later.

    As a child I believed I’d be a famous writer and live by the sea in Maine. That hasn’t come to be, not yet, but when I think of the dream, it’s mostly the ocean that I see, taste, and hear. Once I rode the Staten Island Ferry in my thirties for fun with a friend, there and back, not bothering to leave the ferry terminal when we arrived, simply turning around to board the boat. The ride, moving along the water, was the experience we were after. 

    Given the opportunity, I’ll always choose the water.

  • Five Poems – K. Eltinaé

    fulani blues

    I have a hard time telling mother
    she should get out and exercise
    so we talk about people she admires for hours.

    Fulan al fulani’s son married a girl
    he saw on his uncle’s wedding dvd.
    Took them three weeks to ask about the family,
    will you come for the wedding?

    Fulan al fulani’s son has a son now,
    named after his late father
    too much sugar in our blood, the heat, mosquitos
    take the best ones early
    What keeps you there… when here is better?

    She calls me after work excited
    has met a girl with dimples
    ready to start a family with a modest man
    willing to marry a stranger
    who barely lives with himself.

     

    dowry

    They do no milieu justice
    the rapturous things we learn to be true

    hanging like jasmine
    on a summer night.

    Resentful walls claim weight
    of legacies we assume not because

    time unearthed them but from the shame we fear
    the gossip of borders.

    We wait too long for dowries,
    for the sweat of strangers,

    to remember our own perfume.

     

    unconditional

    I choose the seat closest to the door
    in case someone steps off
    I can follow out and start a new life with.

    Instead I meet couples who are travelling
    who speak about ‘home’ and getting ‘back’
    to places I cross off the map.

    What if I told her my first kiss was on a staircase
    at school between classes, that I lost my balance
    and that each time love has felt that way?

    What if I told them I still walk around
    with imaginary djinns on my shoulders

    that weigh like shame from childhood
    that I bow my head to and offer things
    I have never had without asking?

    What if I dream of being met by a stranger
    who sees me in the way I cannot.

     

    suitor
    After I.A

    You sent her back
    because she ate like fire and bore no children.

    Because the world you were raised in
    taught you broken things were best returned.

    Do you think about how she is still moving through life
    like a paperweight, medicated for the hunger of longing

    thirsty for a ‘love that came after’
    you could never provide?

    She seldom talks about it.
    Just carries on loving

    in her broken way
    unfinished things,

    because after three divorces
    people think you are the problem.

    Not the society
    that asks a girl to find love
    where it can’t exist.

     

    madame

    I will always remember you in a nightgown
    moving in and out of marriages like an ebony ghost.

    My family lay out pictures from different years
    to explain evolution and destruction all at once.

    I am suddenly at the funeral of your first husband
    who died in his early twenties of an overdose

    and left you with a fortune you put to good use
    traveling the length of Europe with that mouth

    a nest of pearls that made men drunk
    the second disappeared so you started writing blank checks

    out of grief in his name until they caught you at the airport
    so when you married the lawyer who later left you everything

    you were ready to love the Arab banker
    who consoled you at his funeral

    who bought the matching suitcases you left at a friends’
    before his car went over a cliff almost a year later.

    In your cast, you signed for everything with your left hand
    later you moved back to Khartoum

    into a house bigger than your loneliness
    spent your last days a welcome guest at funerals

    a smiling moon
    that spun men into dust.

  • Apartment Collage

    All of the tenants woke up at once. The sun glided across the horizon like dawn or armageddon. Light pouring from each window, flooding through every gate. Lunging across the face, penetrating the eye slit. Something dense and loud shook the building. Colliding with the top floor, a meteor or a missile.

    At its incipit, a collective of ambitious architects had organized the building into a maze of studio apartments. Rooms connected by disjointed hallways and corridors, rendering each space partially communal, where the path to the elevator or the lobby or the balcony was taken through neighboring apartments. The vocabulary of the collective drawing references from Deleuze and Borges. They liken their creation to the Library of Babel. Tenants are nourished by the processes of their habitat. Entering the homes of strangers becomes familiar / common. Neighbors become apparitions, distant and obfuscated bodies moving through doors and hallways.

    Performance artists recreate their paths, writers and filmmakers document their encounters. The population shifts into a state of becoming. Simultaneously the subject and object of their fascination. Themselves the same strangers that they see at the ends of hallways and looking out windows. Tenants become suspicious of one another. Pursuing and avoiding. Each a part of the larger apparatus of the building. Because of this, when something loud and dense crashes into the building, into the top floor, there is no investigation.

    Tenants assemble their theories about the loud crashing of the top floor, “It was without cause or purpose.” … “The installation of a new floor.” … “An extension of the landlord’s will.” … “We are without overseer.” … “There are no more consequences.” … “The visitation of a talented artist.” … “One that we have, as a group, defined as being consistent in their aesthetic and praxis.” … “The performance of their ritual.” … “Equating the building to a body.” … “Each of us a cell.” … “Every cluster of rooms an organ.” … “Each floor a system.” … “It is a break or malfunction in the veins connecting systems.” … “Blood cannot travel.” … “The collective has departed.” … “They have left us without an understanding of our environment.” … “Space is of a poetic nature, it cannot be understood haptically.” … “This is nonsense.” … “And yet it afflicts us.” … “Or we are afflicted with a hypochondriac perception of ourselves.” … “Or there is no difference.” … “Or there was no sound at all.” … “But this is not true.” … “Something has happened.”

    Red light illuminates windowless hallways. Fragmented pathways connecting barren or cramped studios. Silhouettes pass one another, clinging to the edges of the wall. Circumnavigating other bodies. The floors creak at the hint of movement. Tampered wallpaper absorbs pockets of light. Someone says that they have been waking up in the middle of the night, seeing images of their mother. The void reconstructs vague memories of her complexion. It feels as if certain pathways have begun to disappear, they say, certain doors aren’t where I remember. Some hallways don’t lead to where they used to.

    A tenant who pretends to associate with the collective of ambitious architects, lists the semiotic qualities of the hallway. Speculates why the lights are red, why people won’t talk to one another, why the floor creaks so much. The neighbor who saw their mother in the middle of the night says that symbols must be placed, they do not happen naturally, or as the byproduct of a degradation. If there is a signifier being signified, in this circumstance, it is the aesthetic elements of Buñuel’s Exterminating Angel, in which none of us can bear to leave, but there is no reason we should stay.

    Someone says that Buñuel might live here, but it is not true. Another tenant says that this could not be true, it would be anachronistic. The layout of the floor changes. Since the sound of the initial impact, the building has felt much more lively. As if awoken. Landlines are severed by tectonic shifts. Wires stretch and unthread. Fires start between walls. Red light crawls into the connecting studios, engulfing the door frame and absorbing the natural fill.

    One of the tenants takes on the facade of a performance artist. They perform the movements of the building. When they flex their leg, the floor shakes. When they extend their bicep, the walls bend. When they tense their neck, the ceiling explodes in noise and static.

    Further hysterias begin to develop. Each tenant finding their own methods of converting paranoia into a tactile art. The collective of ambitious architects respond cryptically by writing a map of the text, in which each floor’s changing shape is dynamically rendered. But regardless of this, there are no departures and no changes to the migration of the tenants.

    apt. no. 4006 – apt. no. 9096 – apt. no. 3619 – apt. no. 2299 – apt. no. 3584 – apt. no. 1345 – apt. no. 3436 – apt. no. 4370 – apt. no. 3813 – apt. no. 2786 – apt. no. 4735 – apt. no. 8562 – apt. no. 7263 – apt. no. 8253 – apt. no. 5782 – apt. no. 1702 – apt. no. 5257 – apt. no. 4474 – apt. no. 826 – apt. no. 4322 – apt. no. 1915 – apt. no. 1765 – apt. no. 8850 – apt. no. 1924 – apt. no. 7211 – apt. no. 1160 – apt. no. 197 – apt. no. 6382 – apt. no. 7860 – apt. no. 5286 – apt. no. 7792 – apt. no. 7394 – apt. no. 6277 – apt. no. 1158 – apt. no. 7493 – apt. no. 9853 – apt. no. 5196 – apt. no. 9277 – apt. no. 2524 – apt. no. 6494 – apt. no. 5820 – apt. no. 6129 – apt. no. 914 – apt. no. 7276 – apt. no. 2714

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